At congressional briefing, questions are asked about the number of air tankers on contract

In 2017 there were 20 large air tankers on exclusive use contracts. This year there are 13.

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Washington Senator Maria Cantwell asks a question about expanding the use of drones on wildfires. Screenshot from the video below.

(This article first appeared at Wildfire Today)

On Thursday the Departments of Interior and Agriculture briefed members of Congress about the outlook for wildfires in 2018.

There was a lot of talk about being more aggressive about attacking fires, forest health, firefighting aircraft,  dead trees, logging, and reducing fuels in forests.

In response to a question by Washington Senator Maria Cantwell about expanding the use of drones on fires, the Secretaries of the two Departments announced that they would sign an agreement to more easily share resources and technology between the two Departments, including drones.

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Interim Chief of the Forest Service, Vicki Christiansen, briefs members of Congress about the 2018 wildfire season. Screenshot from the video below.

During her prepared remarks, Interim Chief of the Forest Service Vicki Christiansen said the Forest Service had “hundreds of aircraft ready to respond” to fires. The fact is, in addition to helicopters, in 2017 there were 20 large air tankers on exclusive use (EU) contracts. This year there are 13, with another 11 on call when needed (CWN) agreements plus one HC-130H Coast Guard aircraft outfitted with a temporary MAFFS tank. The Forest Service wants to get rid of the Coast Guard HC-130H currently being used and the other six that Congress directed them and the Air Force to convert to air tankers.

Randy Eardley, spokesperson for the Bureau of Land Management, told us today that no EU contracts for Single Engine Air Tankers have been awarded yet this year, but there is an existing CWN contract for SEATs which will be used. It is unlikely that an EU contract will be awarded, for the second year in a row. Before 2017 there were typically 33 SEATs on EU contracts every year. Approximately 10 have been working on a CWN basis in Texas and the Southwest during the last month or two.

A few of the politicians at the briefing criticized the reduction in the number of air tankers. At 16:00 in the video, Oregon Senator Ron Wyden expressed his concern.

Last week we were hearing in rural Oregon that there wouldn’t be enough air tankers on exclusive use contracts at the Forest Service…. What is the Service doing to ensure that the all call when needed air tankers are going to be there in terms of these fires.

Ms. Christiansen responded to the Senator:

Senator Wyden, I can assure you we will have the same number of large air tankers, 25, available to us on contract or agency operated. That’s in addition to the specialty that the Department of Interior provides in Single Engine Air Tankers and then we all have a selection of rotary helicopter resources. So we are confident in our ability to field the large air tankers and the other aviation assets. As I said before, we are always evaluating the mix of exclusive use and call when needed. Call when needed can be available within 30 minutes but often certainly within a couple of hours. And our predictive services I have great confidence in that we will bring those call when needed resources on as we anticipate the need expanding. It all happens out of our Interagency Fire Center in Boise.

Call when needed contracts for large air tankers specify that the aircraft should be able to be activated within 48 hours. And it is not as simple as a dispatcher making a phone call to the vendor, it must be handled by a contracting officer. But after being activated, they can remain in that status for an extended period of time, even if it is raining, and be subject to the same dispatch standards as exclusive use aircraft.

The quality of the video and audio below is very poor, but at least 90 percent of the audio is comprehensible.

The article was revised to clarify that while it is unlikely that an exclusive use contract will be awarded this year for SEATs, an existing call when needed contract can be used.

6 thoughts on “At congressional briefing, questions are asked about the number of air tankers on contract”

  1. I would really like to know where these 100’s of Aircraft ,referred to ,by Vicki Christiansen are based ??
    Furthermore the Aircraft types and capabilities?
    Does anyone now ?

  2. Watched a pair of SEATs respond to an incident 230 miles from their base today…that’s a long haul for a SEAT to initial attack a fire. Did they run out of Large Airtankers and have to order the SEATs?

  3. It is really hard to believe either USFS or BLM are going to rely on CWN resources. It is even harder to believe NIFC would be standing still for this nonsense after last years fire season and the predicted fire season on tap for this year. Their budget is going to go through the ceiling if they are relying on CWN assets.

    They must be counting drones when they are saying hundreds of aircraft will be available.

  4. The hundreds of aircraft are EU and CWN. If we contracted more EU I’m rather certain this venue would complain about spending to much up front. Simply put, air tankers don’t put fires out, but you knew that right? I was always taught that If i identified a problem i would help identify a solution. So… what is your solution? The 230 miles launch … I saw that too. Speaks to unfamiliar or inadequate dispatching, let alone thoughtful resource ordering. They were canceled en-route and jettisoned their load too. ( along with a couple of LAT’s ) Red flag, wind driven fires… went out on it’s own.

  5. Per CS’S ASSERTION – The problem is:where are those 100’s of Aircraft that are CWN And EU?
    I do not think they exist and if they do what Airframe type and which locations might they be ?
    I do not think that it is very relevant to count small Helos that carry less than 100 GALLONS ;NOR SHOULD A BUNCH OF DRONES, OR SINGLE ENGINE TINY CESSNA SPOTTER PLANES BE COUNTED ;as effective Wildfire control planes. That is the “problem” ,referred to, and the SOLUTION is more planes ,and smarter utilization of resources ! NO, THE PLANES [water or retardant ] do not put out the fires ,however they make the job a lot more efficient . Proper sizing and location of Aircraft certainly often can prevent a 500 acre fire from becoming a 200,000 acre +, monster

  6. If you don’t know where you want to go, any road will take you there.

    As far as I know, there are no objective air tanker contracting requirements based on some measurable performance criterion. How much payload from air tankers how fast will be enough. Numbers of aircraft are only remotely related to fire fighting performance.

    If this discussion was about passenger airlines, it would be focused on requirements in terms of ASM, PRASM, and CASM [see, not on numbers of aircraft. Aircraft provide ASM and generate PRASM. Aircraft types and aircraft inventory are a fallout of ASM requirements and CASM.

    If it was about military tactical strike aviation, it would be about the required Pk, weapons types, and the best way to get weapons on target on time.

    Until something like the AFUE study is available [] and the mission of tankers in terms of IA or extended attack is defined, I can’t believe that the USFS contracting process will have any appreciation of the adequacy or inadequacy of the aerial firefighting fleet, or the impact of any shortfall in firefighting aviation inventory.

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