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New memorial being unveiled today for the crew of Air Tanker 130

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A screenshot from the KOLO video of Air Tanker 130 breaking up near Walker, California in 2002.

The memorial in Walker, California honoring Steve Wass, Craig LaBare, and Mike Davis was showing its age after having been in place for a decade and a half. The three men were killed June 17, 2002 when their C-130 air tanker crashed while battling the Cannon Fire at Walker, California.

Today at 11:30 a.m. PDT, August 10, the new memorial for the crew will be unveiled along Highway 395 near the site where Tanker 130 crashed. (map)

(UPDATE August 11: photos of the new memorial)

More details are in the video below.

There is another memorial at the Greybull, Wyoming airport for the crews of the two air tankers that crashed in 2002. A month after the C-130 accident Ricky Schwartz and Milt Stollak passed away when their P4Y-2, Tanker 123, crashed in Colorado. May the five gentlemen rest in peace.

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The memorial at the Greybull, Wyoming airport for the five crew members of Tankers 123 and 130. Photo by Bill Gabbert, July 14, 2012.

Thanks and a tip of the hat go out to Jansen. Typos or errors, report them HERE.

Five more PB4Y-2 air tankers

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PB4Y-2 Air Tanker 121, N2871G, at Hemet, California, September 15, 1979. Photo by JD Davis. Anyone know the story of the polka dots?

In our continuing series of looking back at photos of historic air tankers, today we are featuring five PB4Y-2 Privateers: Tankers 30, 50, 121, 123, and 124.  The photos of the aircraft seen here were furnished by the Flight Test Museum at Edwards Air Force Base except for the ones credited to JD Davis. Thanks JD!

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PB4Y-2 Air Tanker 50, N7237C, at Lancaster, California, August 25, 1972.
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PB4Y-2 Air Tanker 30, N3739G, at Lancaster, California November 1980. Photo by JD Davis.
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A PB4Y-2, Tanker 30, N3739G, at Hemet, California, July 17, 1980. Photo by JD Davis.
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PB4Y-2 Air Tanker 123, N7620C, at San Bernardino, California July 25, 1999. Photo by JD Davis.
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PB4Y-2 Air Tanker 124, N2672G?, at Hemet, California, August, 1980. Photo by JD Davis.
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PB4Y-2 Air Tanker 50, N7237C, at Lancaster, California, August 25, 1972.
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A PB4Y-2 Air Tanker at Reno, Nevada, 1976.

Photos of Tanker 123 memorial

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The memorial to the crew of Air Tanker 123 at the Big Elk Meadows VFD at Lyons, Colorado. Google photo.

In the discussion among our readers about the memorial to the three-person crew of Air Tanker 130 that was killed in a crash in 2002 near Walker, California, the subject of another crash the same year came up. Tanker 123, a P4Y-2 Privateer, crashed while maneuvering over a fire near Estes Park, Colorado. Both pilots, Ricky Schwartz and Milt Stollak were killed. All five of the pilots are listed on a memorial at the Greybull, Wyoming airport, but in the article’s comments someone asked if there was a memorial related to the Estes Park crash somewhere in Colorado, and we asked for photos if anyone found the site. Helpful answers provided enough information for Eric to find it recently who took the photos below.  Thanks Eric.

We Googled Eric’s description which produced this Google Maps result, including the photo at the top of the page. It looks like the flagpole has been moved since the first photo, above, was taken. The site is about 8 air miles northwest of Lyons, Colorado — but much farther by roads.

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Air Tanker 123 memorial. Photo by Eric Ward.
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Air Tanker 123 memorial. Photo by Eric Ward.

Here is what Eric wrote about the memorial:

As requested, here are a couple pictures of the Tanker 123 Memorial, which also includes Gordon Knight, who was also killed on the Big Elk Meadows fire, 7/30/02, when his helo went down during firefighting operations. I’d forgotten that one…so 3 pilots lost on one fire in two separate incidents.

The memorial is located in the driveway of the Big Elk Meadows VFD, at 42 Willow Road, Lyons, CO. It’s off CR 47, off US 36 Hwy. Big Elk Meadows is a private subdivision, but no one seemed concerned that I was there looking at the memorial – I assume it’s there to be seen.  It’s about a 30 minute round trip off US 36 to drive up and see it.

Remembering the crews of Air Tankers 123 and 130

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Screenshot from the KOLO TV video.

KOLO TV has a very nice four-minute video tribute to the crew that was killed June 17, 2002 when their C-130A air tanker, Tanker 130, crashed while fighting a wildfire near Walker, California killing all three on board. It includes a short interview conducted minutes before the accident with Steve Wass, one of the pilots. The other two crew members were Craig LaBare and Mike Davis. The video has the well-known footage of the wings falling off the air tanker as it crashed just after making a drop.

A month after the crash of T-130, a P4Y-2 Privateer, T-123, crashed while maneuvering over a fire near Estes Park, Colorado. Both pilots, Ricky Schwartz and Milt Stollak were killed.

Tanker 123 crash near Estes Park, CO, July 18, 2002
Tanker 123 crash near Estes Park, CO, July 18, 2002. Credit: Matt Inden – Special to The News

The NTSB determined that the cause of both crashes was in‑flight structural failure due to fatigue cracking in the wings, and that maintenance procedures had been inadequate to detect the cracking.

These accidents changed aerial firefighting. The Forest Service banned certain models of old war birds and developed new contract specifications regarding inspections and stress monitoring. During the next ten years the large air tanker fleet atrophied, shrinking from 44 on exclusive use contracts in 2002 to 9 in 2012. Not much was done to restore the program until eight days after two pilots were killed in crashes of two P2V air tankers on the same day in 2012  — the Forest Service issued contracts for seven “next generation” air tankers manufactured in the 1980s and 1990s, taking a small step toward partially rebuilding the fleet. As the fire season began in 2018, 13 large air tankers were on federal exclusive use contracts.

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A memorial at Greybull, Wyoming for the crashes of two air tankers in 2002, T-123 and T-130.