Conair to replace all of their L-188 and CV-580 air tankers with Q400s

The company has purchased 11 De Havilland Dash 8 Q400 aircraft which will be converted to air tankers

Conair Q400
Conair Q400. Photo Credit Damien Fournier.

The Conair Group plans to retire all of their legacy L-188 and CV-580 air tankers and over the next two to three years replace them with De Havilland Canada DHC-8 Q400s.

In a statement, the company gave their rationale for making the change:

“Planes used to fight wildfires as airtankers are often older models and are flown into demanding environments, inevitably resulting in metal fatigue over time. In addition, aircraft designed to obsolete standards leads to increased risk of incidents, costly repairs, limited replacement parts, and ultimately time grounded from fighting fires. Conair’s strategic move towards a long-term vision includes replacing the company’s fleet of heavy legacy airtankers with the new Q400ATs.

“We evaluated 29 aircraft before selecting the Q400 for modification into an aerial firefighting tool. The unanimous opinion of our flight operations experts was that the Q400 exceeds all the Next Generation performance criteria within a maneuverable and stable platform.” says Jeff Berry, Director of Business Development at Conair. “The Q400AT is fast, fuel efficient, and tactically flexible, operating both initial attack as well as sustained support actions. The Q400 is still in production and has strong Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) support from De Havilland Aircraft of Canada Limited (De Havilland Canada), guaranteeing availability of parts and servicing for years.”

The eleven Q400s, formerly owned by Flybe and now in Europe, will be delivered to Conair beginning this month.

In 2017 the Conair Group secured a deal to sell six Q400 Multi-Role aircraft converted to air tankers to France’s Securite Civile (Department of Civil Defence and Emergency Preparedness). These were new aircraft that Conair purchased from Bombardier which can be reconfigured in a few hours to carry passengers, hence the Multi-Role (MR) designation. The new aircraft are replacing France’s old S-2 air tankers.

One of Conair’s Q400s, a Q400AT not configured to carry passengers, was on contract in Queensland, Australia during the 2020/2021 summer bushfire season through December. This was the first time the state has had regular access to a large air tanker, rather than borrowing from New South Wales or Victoria. Tanker 141/Bomber 141 (C-FFQE) arrived in Bundaberg in August after departing from Abbotsford British Columbia and making fuel stops at Oakland, Honolulu, Majuro (Marshall Islands), Honiara (Solomon Islands), and Brisbane where it cleared customs.

Air Tanker 141, C-FFQEQ, Q400
T-141 (C-FFQEQ) Q400AT – Refueling at Majuro, Marshall Islands in August , 2020 while en route to Bundaberg, Queensland for the 2020-2021 bushfire season in Australia. Photo Credit Brendon Sutton.

In September, 2020, Jeff Berry, Manager of Business Development at Conair, said, “[The Q400AT] is a pure air tanker STC [supplemental type certificate], so we don’t have any of the residual plumbing, wiring, attachment points inside, or heavy duty flooring that you need for an MR, so it’s stripped down to be a pure tanker. And it gives us the maximum fuel load and the maximum retardant tank capacity. You get the full 10,000 liters [2,642 gallons]. The Q400AT is truly a ‘Green’ airtanker — it is incredibly fuel efficient burning only 58 percent of the fuel per hour while carrying 85 percent of the load of a typical type 1 airtanker.”

According to Wikipedia the Q400’s maximum cruise speed is 345 to 414 mph. It seems likely that the bolted-on external retardant tank would have a negative effect on the air speed and range. Out of the factory it is rated to haul up to 90 passengers.

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File photo of Conair Air Tanker 42, a Convair 580, taxiing for takeoff at Whitehorse International Airport at Yukon, Canada. The aircraft was built in 1958. Photo by D. Cote, Yukon Fire Management.

Conair has been fighting fires for 51 years. In addition to the CV-580, Q400, and L-188, their fleet currently is comprised of air attack and bird dog aircraft (Cessna  Caravan C208B and Turbo Commander TC-690A), amphibious scooping air tankers (CL215T and Air Tractor AT802A), and land-based air tankers (Avro RJ85 and Air Tractor AT 802).


The manufacture date of the Convair 580 in the photo was corrected to show it was 1958, not 1981.

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10 thoughts on “Conair to replace all of their L-188 and CV-580 air tankers with Q400s”

  1. Hi guys the posts about there’s Conair’s purchase of the dash Q400 S series very interesting. But I do have a question as anybody know what they paid for these aircraft?.

    1. I’ve seen on line specs/advertisement that the Q400 goes for about 30-ish million dollars. That’s a passenger/cargo bird price.

  2. Regarding the photo of the Convair 580, I thought these were built in the 50’s and 60’s. Was it really built in 1981 or is that the date it was converted to a retardant ship? Love old heavy metal…

    1. I believe that date refers to the time when it was converted into an air tanker. You are correct, all of the CV580s were originally manufactured in the 50’s and 60’s either as 340’s or 440’s, later becoming the 580 with the addition of the Allison 501 engines.

    1. You’re likely to see them coming on line in North America this summer as they begin phase out of other airplanes and they already have 2-3 ready to go. Keep in mind that this is an additional 11 and doesn’t include the outstanding deliveries to France which are right off the factory floor new. The math tells me there will be 22 of the type flying the friendly skies of Europe, Australia and North America in the near future. Looks good. Is my envy showing?

  3. Live in So Calif. Fire season is almost year round. Live seeing your company craft flying about. Y’all have a catchy color scheme.
    Admire your ground Crews, pilots and all involved in operations. Have been in areas when drops were made. Bulls eye every time.
    Saying, thank you, seems so short.
    Had an uncle that flew for USFS in Hemet, as I recall, B-26’s.
    Thank you for protecting homes, property, etc.

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